President Bashar al-Assad on anti-IS strikes: "We
knew about the campaign before it started, but we didn't know about the
details"
Syria's
President Bashar al-Assad says his government is receiving messages
from the US-led coalition battling the jihadist group, Islamic State.
Mr Assad told the BBC that there had been no direct co-operation since air strikes began in Syria in September.
But third parties - among them Iraq - were conveying "information".
He also denied that Syrian government forces had been dropping
barrel bombs indiscriminately on rebel-held areas, killing thousands of civilians.
Mr Assad dismissed the allegation as a "childish story", in a
wide-ranging interview with BBC Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen in
Damascus.
"We have bombs, missiles and bullets... There is [are] no barrel bombs, we don't have barrels."
Our correspondent says that his denial is highly
controversial as the deaths of civilians in barrel bomb attacks are
well-documented.
Analysis: Jeremy Bowen, BBC Middle East Editor
Mr Assad's many enemies will dismiss his view of the war.
For them, he has been in charge of a killing machine that has been chewing Syrians up and spitting them out.
As the war enters its fifth year, the barrel bomb has become the most notorious weapon in the regime's arsenal.
Two or three years ago, I saw the results of what must have
been one in Douma, a suburb of Damascus that has been held by rebels
since close to the beginning of the war.
Mr Assad insisted that the Syrian army would never use them in a place where people lived.
"I know about the army. They use bullets, missiles and bombs.
I haven't heard of the army using barrels, or maybe, cooking pots."
It was a flippant response; the mention of cooking pots was
either callousness, an awkward attempt at humour, or a sign that Mr
Assad has become so disconnected from what is happening that he feels
overwhelmed.
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Aleppo has continually been hit by barrel bombs, activists say |
'No dialogue'
Many US-led coalition states have denied co-operating with Mr
Assad, whom they have urged to step down since an uprising against his
rule erupted in 2011.
But the Islamic State's (IS) seizure of large parts of Syria
and Iraq in the past year and its creation of a "caliphate" has prompted
officials to consider working with the Syrian leader to combat the
group.
Despite this, Mr Assad ruled out joining the international coalition that is seeking to "degrade and destroy" IS.
The Jordanian air force has stepped up strikes on IS positions in Syria since the killing of one of its pilots
"No, definitely we cannot and we don't have the will and we
don't want, for one simple reason - because we cannot be in an alliance
with countries which support terrorism," he said.
He did not give details, but the Syrian government routinely
portrays both jihadist militants and members of the political opposition
as "terrorists".
Mr Assad stressed that he was not against co-operating over
IS with other countries. But he would refuse to talk with American
officials, he said, "because they don't talk to anyone, unless he's a
puppet", an apparent reference to Western- and Gulf Arab-backed
opposition leaders.
"And they easily trample over international law, which is
about our sovereignty now, so they don't talk to us, we don't talk to
them."
President Assad dismissed efforts by the US to train and equip a "moderate" rebel force to fight IS militants
The president did concede, however, that his government had
been receiving information indirectly via third parties about sorties by
US and Arab warplanes over Syria.
"Sometimes, they convey a message, a general message, but
there's nothing tactical," he said, adding: "There is no dialogue.
There's, let's say, information, but not dialogue."
Mr Assad dismissed efforts by the US to train and equip a
"moderate" rebel force to fight IS militants on the ground in Syria,
saying it was a "pipe-dream". He argued that there were no moderates,
only extremists from IS and al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria, al-Nusra
Front.
'No indiscriminate weapons'
Elaborating on his denial of the use of barrel bombs, Mr Assad
said: "I know about the army. They use bullets, missiles and bombs. I
haven't heard of the army using barrels, or maybe, cooking pots."
He added: "There are no indiscriminate weapons. When you
shoot you aim, and when you shoot, when you aim, you aim at terrorists
in order to protect civilians... You cannot have war without
casualties."
Mr Assad said Syrian government forces would not indiscriminately bomb civilian areas
Barrel bombs are large cylindrical metal containers filled with explosive and shrapnel.
Human rights activists say they are typically dropped from
helicopters - which only government forces are believed to operate - at
high altitudes to avoid anti-aircraft fire. At that distance, it is
impossible to target with precision, they add.
Mr Assad similarly denied that government forces had used
chlorine as a weapon, despite investigators from the Organisation for
the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons supporting claims that at least 13
people had been killed in a series of attacks by helicopters on three
villages last year.
The president also defended the besieging of rebel-held areas
across Syria, which activists say has had the effect of starving
civilian residents.
"In most of the areas where the rebels take over, the
civilians fled and come to our areas," he said. "So in most of the areas
that we encircle and attack, are only filled with militants."
Original news found here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31312414